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    March 29, 2011
    11:00 - 1:00pm EDT  

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bill: what else can happen in two hours for crying out loud? martha: every day, every day. bill: what a world. martha: we are glad to have you with us in "america's newsroom." bill: you've got it "happening now" starts right now. jenna: breaking developments in a brand-new story this hour, developments fast and furious out of libya where the rebels putting up quite a fight as qaddhafi forces turn up the heat bringing in tanks, firing rockets and launching more attacks. out of syria, the country's entire cabinet just resigned. a major discrimination lawsuit against walmart. will the supreme court let it go forward? it's a big question, it's all new, it's all live, "happening now." we've been on a roll with big
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news days, haven't we, greg. gregg: we certainly have. jenna: we are so glad you are with us. gregg: i'm greg jarrett in for jon scott. there are brand-new developments to tell you about in libya where a battle for qaddhafi's hometown is raging. just some of the gunfire there, rebel forces armed with machine guns working very hard to make headway after a set back in sirte. progovernment forces beating them back using tanks, heavy mortar and rockets, but the outgunned rebel fighters not about to give up, not by a long shot, and they have their work cut out for them in misrata as well where pro-qaddhafi forces just launched a brand-new round of attacks. the word is the opposition is holding them back. jenna: all this as top diplomats around the world including hillary clinton meet in london
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to talk about an end game they say for qaddhafi's regime. the arab league hoping to ratchet up pressure on the libyan strong man to quit. for more perspective on this we are in a place called mizdah. tell us what is happening right now on the ground right now. >> reporter: right now we are being shown by the government places where there have been alleged collateral damage caused by coalition air strikes the night before. apparently the coalition struck an ammunition depot and this caused some stray russian-made rockets to fly out and hit a part of a hospital, and they say that there with civilian casualties although they say that all the patients from this hospital have been evacuated. we are having a hard time as we have had in the past few days absolutely confirming civilian casualties. jenna: that's something you talked to us about, you gave us a great report last week about
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what you were seeing and how it was to operate in tripoli. what can you tell us about the nature of your relationship as a member of the press with the libyan government right now? >> reporter: well, i mean right now it seems that the libyan government is tolerating us being here. we are under close watch. the authorities are keeping a close eye on us. we are basically under house arrest unless they let us go out i think we serve a purpose in that we help them have a little bit of control over the story, where as when there are no journalists here the other networks and channels and newspapers have a very little way of getting information and we rely on opposition sources. jenna: do you feel safe? >> reporter: you know, generally i feel safe. there have been a few times when things that have happened have really given me the creeps, especially, for example when the government goons dragged away this poor woman saturday morning who who came in to tell us about
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her alleged gang rape at the hands of qaddhafi's men. jenna: that would give anybody the creeps. what next are you looking for as you're continuing to follow the story on the ground? >> reporter: well, i think that what is interesting is will these coalition air strikes translate into rebel gains? we are not talking just in the east where the rebels are trying to gather momentum for a grand offensive on the qaddhafi stronghold of sirte but also in the western city of misrata where rebels and government forces are in basically daily clashes, hourly clashes from what we understand, from what we saw in a brief visit yesterday. also in the far west of the country, in zintan where coalition strikes struck last night there is a coalition area to the west of here, i'm not sure if they will rice up and move towards the capitol if they have the opportunity.
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jenna: such an interesting story and developing quickly. offering great perspective. we look forward to talking to you again. he is with the los angeles times. one question we will ask of ambassador rice of the u.n. is about who we are helping in libya, whether or not this opposition is turning into rebel gangs, whgainings, who is suppog them. we want to hear from you on this. log onto foxnews.com click on the you decide link today. we're asking if the u.s. should arm libya's rebels. there are some questions about that. click on your answer and you can see how other people are voting. so far more than a thouf you have weighed in. you can check it out at foxnews.com. so many tkpwres, about who the opposition is. gregg: the president didn't talk about arming the rebels but a lot of people are saying he really should have done that. we want your thoughts on that. in the meantime there is a new wave of protests in yemen this
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morning. take a look at this demonstrators calling for the immediate ouster of ali abdullah saleh and demanding political reforms. now ali abdullah saleh has promised to september down at the end of his term, dozens of protesters have been killed in yemen since antigovernment violent tkepl straeugtss broke out last month. and now syria where president's has resigned, they just quit. human rights groups claiming that dozen of antigovernment protesters were killed by the syrian troops. hundreds of house of progovernment demonstrators are flooding the streets of damascus right now showing their support for the embattled present assad. leland lit vert live with details. >> reporter: it is very hard to
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emergency that the secretary and rest of his cabinet resigning is going to do much to placate any of these demonstrators that have taken to the streets in syria. these prodemocracy demonstrators have been very clear, they say they want the president to resign, they want him to be gone. at least a hundred people have died for their cause and the president and his regime have used pretty brutal tactics to put them down and to keep the media to get in and broadcast. they are more than happy to broadcast what are on the streets today. all the prodemonstrators came out inside the capitol of damascus. we had hundreds of thousands of people supporting the president and his regime and saying they want him to stick around. state tv did a great job broadcasting these pictures. they also broadcasted an interview with a presidential adviser. who said visas are for the waiting, come on in we'd love to have you.
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they have not made good on the promise to allow foreign journalists to come in and figure out what is happening. the united states has publicly come out and said they are not going to do anything, they are not going to step in in the way they stepped in in libya and have some type of military action to try to enforce the ability of these protestors to continue to rise up. number two is iran which is playing a big role in these protests, both in bahrain, in egypt and also in libya, the iranian government came out and supported the protestors, however in syria, syria is a big iranian ally, so far they have remained silent about the protests. back to you. gregg: thanks very much. we'll be talking to an expert about that very subject coming up skwrepbdz right now in japan the prime minister says the country is on maximum alert over its nuclear crisis we've been following so closely. hours ago a 6.3 magnitude
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earthquake rocked the pacific coast there. one hundred miles from the fukushima power plant, that's how close it was. there are already concerns that toxic plutonium found in soil and seawater near that plant is spreading. in thailand authorities are checking food products shipped from japan for any levels of radiation. the death toll tops 3,000 in just one town. this village had a fortress wall to withstand a tsunami. the entire town is wiped out. dominic dnatali screaming live. >> reporter: they are trying to contain an overrun of high reradioactive water in reactors one, two and three. this is of great concern. at the moment the spread of radiation from the fukushima plant is causing a awful lot of concern and worry for both the authorities and the general public who are fearing contamination. they are piling sandbags and
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concrete blocks particularly into this runoff trench at reactor number one, but the pool has filled up and the second container was supposed to take the remainder of the water. it's four inches from overflowing itself. it seems inevitable we will have a wider spread done tam nation. a bigger issue is what is happening to the extremely radioactive water pools that are gathering inside the reactors particularly at number two and three. those pools are full, virtually full to completion. the water they are trying to pupl than out, the issue is where do they put that contaminated water. it seems they have no other choice but to pump it either into the sea orin to the surrounding compound which is supposed to be able to contain an awful lot of this water. the shear volumes of water they've been spraying into the plant is getting so excessive that it's going to have to naturally runoff the complex, jenna. jenna: what do you do with the waste? one of the comparisons made to this disaster, dominic is how it
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compares to kherb r-r. can you give us a perspective chernoble. >> reporter: there was only one reactor that went into total melt town. here there are two reactors that have partially melted down. if they go to full meltdown the scale of disaster is much, much bigger, twice as large as it was in chernoble. they are trying to keep the fuel rods cool as possible, currently reaching about 700 degrees fahrenheit, much higher than they are actually made or the containment unit around the rods are actually built to contain, which suggests if they can't prevent the water from boiling over we will get further exposure of the rods creating the risk of a major meltdown. they are fighting fires at the moment, figuratively speaking. if they can't keep the fuel rods cool, yes we are looking at a major disaster here.
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jenna: thanks. gregg: this could be the largest class action discrimination lawsuit in american history as women employees take on walmart, the world's biggest retailers. but they've got a pretty high hurdle to clear. will the u.s. supreme court let this case go forward? jenna: a busy day at the supreme court taking a look at that line. as calls go for the 4 libyan leader to step down his closes advisers aren't sure if qaddhafi can hang onto power. what his inner circle is saying to fox, we're live with that story. jenna: a woman nearly buried alive in her own backyard when he fell into a giant sinkhole that swallowed her up. >> i go inside the house, i hear carla screaming. i followed her scream, i opened the sliding glass door, i look to the left and sure enough i see her fingertips and screaming
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jenna: brand-new trouble for moammar gadhafi today as rebels keep up the relentless fighting there is word that the libyan leader's inner circle may be crumbling. they are saying morale among his forces extremely low and even his closest advisers, his immediate family are now questioning whether the libyan leader can survive politically. catherine herridge has a report. catherine what are some of the indications that maybe we are seeing some cracking in glad's camp. >> reporter: a short time ago this very issue came up at the senate armed services committee hearing. that hearing is on going at this hour. they have hinted of cracks in glad's inner circle. if several factors come together there is a greater likelihood the libyan leader going. separately a u.s. official says to fox that morale is extremely low among the qaddhafi forces.
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they are moving bodies to suggest rebels or coalition forces are responsible for those deaths. second fox is told that the libyan leader's all important inner circle, a dozen people or less are questioning whether he can survive. that includes a handful of senior military officers, glad's immediate family and a handful of his cronies. glamoammar gadhafi is constantln the move and rarely stays in one place for longer than a day at a time. jenna: is there any particular event that officials are pointing to specifically saying, hey this might be the turning point among this group of people. >> reporter: that's an extent question. what i'm t told is that there is not sort of a single event, single factor tipping point that causes a dictator to leave office it's a combination of factors. if there is one scenario that u.s. officials are pointing us to is the situation we saw in tunisia.
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the protests seemed to come out of nowhere at the end of december after a surrender lit himself on fire. they grew quickly. within about two weeks despite offering concessions president ben ali sphred the you country. this was much to the surprise of u.s. officials who had told fox he might try to hold on. he went to work that morning and by 4:00 that afternoon he was on a plane and was out of the country. the pressure came from the armed forces, from the legislature that lacked confidence and specifically from his wife, sort of the ultimate inner circle if you will. what u.s. officials say about that if anything in tunisia is sometimes it's the political dynamics rather than what is happening on the ground that forces the hands of one of these dictators. that's what they have told us to be on the look out for in libya in particular, jenna. jenna: catherine, thanks. gregg: well some incredibly
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fight evening moments for a woman in florida. she was nearly swallowed up by a giant sinkhole. it happened right in her backyard. carla chapman was out gardening, kind of picking some spices when cuddly the ground opened up right beneath her. she did manage to call her husband who telephoned police and the officer said he just followed her screams to get to her. cap man describes her harrowing experience. >> if we measure it maybe seven feet deep with a vice grip and your body. you're literally being pushed against pounds of pressure. gregg: her little fingers were kind of sticking up, that's how her husband saw it outside the sliding glass door. this isn't the first time she's had to deal with a sinkhole, but it will be the last time. she's getting out, selling the
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house. jenna: do you garden, gregg. gregg: yes. it's underground water that softens the earth and it suddenly gives way. jenna: breaking news out of the middle east more demonstrations in syria today. after we heard this morning the entire cabinet resigned. this is part of a string of changes. the president there says he's hoping he's going to quell a growing up rise. is it enough to help him hold onto power? what is best for the united states. we'll take a closer look to that. a stunning new video out of wisconsin, the criminal who tried to get away by clinging to the roof of a car, next. ♪ hello sunshine, sweet as you can be ♪ [ female announcer ] wake up to sweetness with honey nut cheerios cereal. kissed with real honey. and the 100% natural whole grain oats can help lower your cholesterol. you are so sweet to me. bee happy. bee healthy.
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gregg: some breaking news out of syria now, thousands of
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demonstrators are packing damascus today showing support, mind you for the embattled president alsaad. he says he's going to make major concessions, replagues his entire cabinet and ending five decades of emergency rule. is that enough to stop an uprising against one of the most repressive regimes. david schenker joins us, a former middle east adviser to defense secretary donald rumsfeld. good to see i. is this going to be enough to appease the protestors and quench a volume till situation. >> i don't think so. everybody knows that the government doesn't really mean anything in syria. this is a dictatorship, a one-man show, and he's trying to placate the crowds, get them off
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the streets, even if he changes or ends the emergency law he says he's going to incorporate those provisions into counterterrorism laws. so this will remain a very repressive place and nobody is going to believe that he's going to make a significant change. gregg: he's not only repressed his people he's committed all kinds of human rights abuses, he supported terrorism by funding hamas and hezbollah, he gives them arms and yet secretary hillary clinton said the other day, well he is actually a reformer, is that ludicrous? >> that was a remarkable statement, frankly i expected more from the secretary. there are people in the government and the congress who believe that. i don't see any justification for it. this is a man who, of course, was responsible for sending all these jihad is into iraq. he has for decades not only repressed his own people, a
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decade for this president and tanked lebanon. it's been a regional disaster. he's had ten years and made no reforms yet. gregg: on the right hand side of the scene this is damascus, these are pro president protesters there. that is different from the north and south where there are a equal number of antipresidential protesters here. does damascus become a center of power and everything else is not? >> you have to take these protests for the president with a grain of salt. these are rent-a-crowds. they are military con scripts who are sent out to protest in favor of the president without their uniforms on. but, no, this is still an effort to put down these rebellions. they are doing it in a brutal fashion and it's not going to change. gregg: iran and syria are charter members of the axis of
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evil, they are close allies, iran dictates a lot of what syria does and obviously gives them money and supplies them with all kinds of weapons and was trying to help them build a nuclear weapons program until the israelis bombed it on syrian territory. what impact might the uprising in syria have on iran if any at all? >> well iran hasn't been covering this at all in their me yeah. they covered -- covered the uprising in egypt, in tunisia, they were very happy to see these dictators go. this is a 30-year strategic relationship between iran and syria. i think they are quite nervous. syria is a conduit by which iran sends weapons to hezbollah and lebanon. iran doesn't have many friends in the region. syria is quite important for them. gregg: david schenker thank you for being here. always good to see you. >> my pleasure. jenna: we'll show everybody
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washington with more. carl, what are the dems and the republicans at this point, any closer to a deal? >> reporter: no, it's another impass. you pretty much nailed it right on the head. and they're making up stories about each other, according to at least one side. as we head toward this next government deadline -- april 8th is when the government will shut down -- the two sides remain far apart. the fiscal year expires september 30th. republicans take $51 billion out of what's being spent right now. democrats would cut $20 billion, so there's a $31 billion gap between the two proposals. and you've got to remember so far in this ongoing process of avoiding shutdown, they've cut $10 billion. so the gap would be a total of $61 billion in cuts proposed by republicans as opposed to $31 billion by democrats. democrats argue that they're actually meeting the gop halfway with their $31 billion figure.
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it is unacceptable to fiscal conservatives, deficit hawks on the republican side, and tea party conservatives particularly. so it's going to be a real battle, and the democrats in the senate are making the suggestion that their proposal of a $20 billion additional cut was actually being seriously contemplated by gop leaders over their congressional recess last week. republican leadership sources say that's a fairy tale and no such consideration was ever very serious. gregg: are there republicans who are saying, hey, wait a minute, this is actually working for us quite nicely. we've had two short-term resolutions, we've achieved $10 billion in cuts. do the math, in no time if we keep passing these short-term resolutions, we're going to be up to our 61 billion. >> reporter: right. by doing that, of course, these short-term continuing resolutions or stopgap budgets to keep things open o, they are denying additional funds to things like the defense department. they need to have some long-term spending strategy, these
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government agencies need to know they've got enough money to work in the long term. so over the next eight days we're going to see an awful hot of this discussion. there you see the senate floor, they're in a quorum call right now, but harry reid was talking optimistically about the possibility of a deal even though republicans are increasingly concerned that they're dragging their feet. listen to this. >> i spoke with the white house this morning, conversations going with the white house and the republican leadership in the house, and i think that this matter with a little bit of good fortune can move down the road in the next day or two to get us to a point where we can have something done, so we avoid government shutdown. i certainly hope that's the case. >> reporter: and that's what both sides have been saying. the leadership for the democrats and republicans in both chambers saying we'd like to get a deal, we don't want a shutdown, but they've been kicking the can down the road now since last october. gregg: let's make a deal. all right, carl cameron live in
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the washington, thanks very much. jenna? jenna: another big story today, gregg, it could be the largest sex discrimination case in u.s. history affecting companies really all over this nation. a group of women suing walmart claiming it favors men over women in pay and promotions. today the case is in the hands of the highest court in the land. shannon bream is live right outside the supreme court building with more. >> reporter: jenna, this is one of those days where there is a very loud protest in progress. we'll give you a look. these folks say walmart does not pay women fairly, some of them just generally don't like walmart's policies overall. but this case is about three women who stepped up and said we were passed over for pay and promotions because we are women and nothing more. they're alleging sex discrimination, but the bigger question is can they put together a class-action lawsuit that would be the biggest in this history? they want to put together a class of up to 500,000 or 1.5 million regardless of whether
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those women have ever filed complaints or had any issues with working with walmart. walmart came here and said you can't allow more than a million women to be joined together who may have no interest in suing us. we have a centralized policy that says no sex discrimination, we give our managers unfettered access to make decisions at the local level. they don't discriminate, but the women here say they have proof, they have evidence that it goes way beyond just the three of them. this would make it the largest class action in history. as you can imagine, walmart says we're going to fight back in every way. if those individual women want to file lawsuits, we will meet those, but this goes against every, basically, federal policy procedure rule out there for federal courts. they're asking the supreme court to decertify this class because the lower courts, the ninth circuit, has already said it's okay to put together this giant class to sue walmart. we'll soon know what the justices think. back to you. jenna: interesting case. could set a historic precedent as you mentioned, shannon.
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thank you very much. certainly, a lot more to the story. gregg: there is, so let's go in depth for more on the landmark ruling we are awaiting, or the hearing at least, the arguments. we're joined by andrew smiley and seth baronswag who is a business and employment law attorney. seth, the record reflects, unfortunately, some anecdotal or individual acts of gender discrimination, but that's not enough, as you know. there has to be some systemic scrippation to support a class action. of it's what's called commonality of claims. where does that exist here? >> well, the problem is that it does not exist in this case. nobody disagrees with the point that discrimination in the workplace is horrible and intolerable. we all agree on that. can question is, in this case did these six plaintiffs adequately and commonly represent roughly a million workers in 3,500 locations throughout the united states that have undergone discrimination under the last
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several years through over 170 job classifications? unfortunately, i don't believe that it does. i think the supreme court will reach that conclusion. it doesn't mean that the case can't move forward, that they're not victims, it just has to be positioned properly, and that's the way it has to move forward in this particular case. gregg: you know, andrew, i looked at the arguments on paper at least that walmart was putting forth, their lawyers, and they say the following: women make up two-thirds of the workers and two-thirds of all of the managers number of women promoted is equal to or greater than the number who applied for jobs. so how can there be a consistent pattern of unequal pay and promotion here? >> well, the plaintiffs in this case, from what i understand, are sharply disputing that contention, and they have evidence showing that it's a majority of the work force for walmart are women in the smaller positions and that those women are the minority when it comes to the managerial positions and that the women are getting paid less for the same job that the
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men are getting paid for. these are the facts that are going to come out of the case. and what the u.s. supreme court now has to decide is sort of a simple issue at the base of it. whether or not these individuals' civil rights claims have the right and ability to fight a company like walmart that is the biggest, most profitable billion-making dollar company out there. and the only way they can really have a fair fight is to level the field by allowing them to certify as a class. otherwise, walmart and their lawyers and their billions of dollars are going to come down on every individual claimant, every attorney, there's just no way they can fight a fair fight. >> but that's -- gregg: i don't want to get too far into the weeds in the legal aspect of the case. >> sure. gregg: i want to put this forward to our viewers out there, our consumers, americans. >> right. gregg: this would mean millions of women and billions of dollars paid out by walmart if it goes forward and they lose it or settle it. my goodness, that would have a
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dramatic impact across our economy, wouldn't it? >> >> gregg, the problem is -- wait, wait, walmart has decided to put themselves in this position because they've made billions, and they continue to make billions of dollars every year. they've grown their stores, they've grown their work force. they can't have it both ways, they have to be accountable to their -- >> that's just a general economic argument. the specific point many this case is they have to prove discrimination. no one disagrees that discrimination is bad, but it's a complete myth that the only level playing field you have is with a class action. it's a quicker, simpler way for these individuals to pursue it individually. they have their own claims in eeoc, and it can move forward individually on themselves. so it's a myth to say that the only way these people can level it is to have a class action lawsuit. it's going to change the way it does business. gregg: gentlemen, we're going to have to leave it at that. this final thought, for the first time one-third of the united states supreme court is made up of women. wonder what impact that may
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have? andrew and seth, thank you both for being with us. >> thanks, gregg. jenna: the fighting heats up in libya. the rebels come under more attacks, and nato is set to take over the mission there. what about these reports we're hearing today, though, that there are flickers of al-qaeda among the rebels? we're going to talk live to our u.n. ambassador, susan rice, just ahead. also, a mud slide emergency in california, now the race to save homes before they tumble down a hillside. and a 300-pound stingray comes flying out of the sea, gregg. get this. leaps on a boat, pins a mother down while her kids look on. her dramatic story just ahead. ♪
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jenna: more disturbing news out of japan today. new reports plutonium is seeping out of reactors at fukushima contaminating surrounding soil and water in the area. in the meantime, back at home here at least 15 states from california to massachusetts
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reporting slightly elevated radiation levels in water. now, the japan disaster just for some context here is now expected to be the costliest in history with damages of $300 billion. that's followed by a quake in japan back in is 895 and hurricane katrina -- 1995. paul carol roll is program directer of plowshares fund and has worked on nuclear west issue -- nuclear waste issues. paul, let's start with the levels of radiation we're detecting here at home. the long-term effect, as we continue to see radiation levels not just today, but in the weeks and months to come, what does the build-up do? is there such a thing as radioactive build-up? is. >> well, you ask a very good question. the nature of radiation is not very well understood when it comes to long-term exposure at low levels. and that's why when we talk about risk, what we can say is
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any additional exposure to radiation exposes or increases your risk of getting sick, of getting cancer, of getting thyroid disease. what we can't say is exactly -- what we can't say is exactly how much and what duration. we have picked up slightly increased levels of radiation in the united states, it doesn't necessarily mean it's coming from the talk fukushima accidenn japan. it's sort of a question of, well, if you went looking for something in your backyard, you might find it. so i suspect until we know more that these readings may or may not be coming from from japan. jenna:-and-a-half so we have limited knowledge, as you mentioned. we don't necessarily know if it's going to be dangerous, but when do we get worried? >> well, the findings of plutonium in the soil at fukushima should always be of concern. plutonium is very dangerous stuff, and so we should always be on alert and, you know, scrutinize these findings and these readings. however, having said that, we
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would also expect to see some plutonium found around fukushima because we know that radiation has been released, we know that steam was released earlier when the explosions happened. what we need to understand better and, unfortunately, this is going to take more time, is precisely the makeup of those radionuclides, how much, what intensity and if and when this is stabilized -- jenna: right. >> -- a full assessment of how much. jenna: and that question of when it's stabilized. it's still a question we have almost every single day now, paul, and it's been going on for more than two weeks. what can you tell us about the progress? we keep on, it almost seems sounding the red alert, but at this point it's starting to all sort of sound the same. what should we be watching in the days ahead? >> what we should be watching is continued readings and measurements about radiation, what type of radiation, and where it has traveled. is it only in the soils immediately around the vicinity? is it getting into surface and
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groundwater? what we have at this point, i would say, is a little bit more good news than bad. the first ten days of this crisis were just bad news after bad news, explosions, fuel melting. we do seem to be on a trajectory toward better news, but we're not out of the woods yet. when we do get out of the woods, what we then need is sort of a captain kirk calling scotty in the control room and saying, all right, scotty, i need to know exactly what's wrong with our ship. and that's what we need to wait for. it's very frustrating, but we need to have solid measurements, confidence in those measurements and, really, a full damage assessment. jenna: all right. certainly a lot more to this story as you so appropriately point out, paul. thank you so much for your expertise today. look forward to talking to you again. >> thank you. jenna: interesting stuff. still going to be a big story. gregg: yeah, it sure is. jenna: american troops are helping the rebels in libya. president obama says we're there to prevent the slaughter of
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civilians, but what about other nations in the world where that kind of genocide is going on? why isn't the u.s. helping those countries as well? we're going to be live with that story, it's an important question we should ask. gregg: and some disappointing new numbers on the housing front, and the white house now out with a $20 billion plan to help homeowners. we'll have an in-depth look. the best approach to food is to keep it whole for better nutrition. that's what they do with great grains cereal. they steam and bake the actual whole grain while the other guy's flake is more processed. mmm. great grains. the whole whole grain cereal.
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gregg: mudslides sending several homes in the bay area sliding right down the hillside. heavy rains over the past week have loosened the ground under about a half a dozen homes there. this is in northern california, the backyards and patios have begun breaking apart. city inspectors have told some of the families they cannot stay there until they can shore up the area and cut down some of the trees that are endangering those homes. jenna: just so much rain out there in california.
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gregg: yeah, boy, it's been awful. jenna: well, the crisis in japan sparking new fears about nuclear power around the world. it could also be potentially big news to the u.s. coal mining industry as we take a look at other energy sources. molly line is life in -- live in pennsylvania with more. >> reporter: hi, jenna, this is one of the biggest coal complexes in the country when with it combines the two mines they have here, it is the biggest, and behind me what is believed to be biggest production facility for coal in the country. they put about 22 million tons of coal out of this facility alone every year. really sees tremendous volume that can be accomplished with the people involved that they have. the accident in this japan has caused a lot of governments around the world to reevaluate the investment they're making in nuclear power and the safety of the nuclear power industry. analysts here in america believe that means america's coal industry will see a bit of growth in the upcoming years as
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europe has increased volume, as some other countries that are supplying to japan like australia begins to supply greater, it'll have a trickle-down effect and will ultimately mean the production here will need to be greater. and the officials here with the new mine opening up believe they'll be ready to meet that demand. we had a chance to look at one of the mines that's been in production yesterday. down about a thousand feet and in about two miles or so and get a firsthand look at exactly what it takes to bring the coal from the very bottom of the mines here up to the surface and to countries all over the world supplying asia, south america and, of course, europe, our biggest importer of coal. jenna, back to you. jenna: molly, thanks. gregg: all right, got to tell you about this one. a frightening ordeal on a sightseeing boat in the florida keys. a giant stingray suddenly flies out of the ocean and slams into a woman tourist onboard a boat, knocking her down as her three young children screamed in horror.
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this spotted eagle ray weighed about 300 pounds. its body was eight feet wide, and the woman was trapped beneath and gasping for air for several minutes. fortunately, two florida fish and wildlife officers patrolling the area got onboard, they helped get the stingray off the boat. here's the captain. >> the thing was trying to swim out, and it's slamming, it's doing its thing with its body trying to get out of the boat. and she is underneath it. gregg: oh, my. you know, look, accidents like this are very rare, but they're also quite dangerous. the 40-year-old woman is said to be doing just fine. you ever seen a stingray up close and personal in the water? jenna: oh, my gosh, and i never want to ever. gregg: i went to stingray city in the cayman islands diving down there, and they come right up to you. you feed them cheese whiz, and they're magnificent creatures, but they're kind of scary looking. of.
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jenna: all right. brand new stories and breaking news. japan in a state of maximum alert as it struggles to contain the spread of nuclear radiation. also, the white house has a new $20 billion plan to fix the foreclosure crisis, what capitol hill has to say. and will the big banks play along? also, the u.s. ambassador to the u.n. offering new hope to the rebels in libya as the international community steps up the pressure on ghadafi. she's here with us live, it's all new, it's all live. "happening now." and starting off with libya's rebels facing new setbacks
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there. we're watching those developments closely after the president's address last night. we're so glad you're with us, everybody, i'm jenna lee. gregg: and i'm gregg jarrett in for jon scott. driving back an opposition assault on ghadafi's hometown as world leaders gather in london to talk about libya's future. nato getting set to take over the command in libya, but even with a no-fly zone there, the rebels still are heavily outgunned by forces loyal to ghadafi. rick leventhal is on the ground, and he's on the move. he's on the phone in libya. rick? >> reporter: we're streaming to you live now, gregg, alongside a highway that is the scene of a massive retreat by opposition fighters, the largest restreet that we have seen since we've been here. they were west of us. on the way yesterday knocking on doors, that's when ghadafi's troops began advancing on the rebels and pushed them back. what you're hearing behind me, large guns being fired in the
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air not in battle, but celebration, if you will, despite the fact that they are heading the wrong way. battle, apparently, is fierce. we've heard of rockets being fired on rebel positions and sniper fire as well. there were a number of wounded, we believe some killed today as well, and that's why they began pulling back in massive numbers down this highway heading east. but, again, advances at that the opposition fighters have made the last couple of days lost today when ghadafi's troops reversed the trend and began heading back. gregg? gregg: all right. rick leventhal live in libya. thanks very much, rick. jenna: lots more to covering this story. in the meantime, the obama administration says it intervened in the crisis in libya for humanitarian reasons, and now some critics want to know why libya? why not other countries where atrocities are also happening that we know about?
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william with la jeunesse is live with this story in los angeles. william? >> reporter: well, jenna, the president argues that libya is unique, but several human rights groups say it's not, that victims in the african nation of ivory coast can legitimate argue they deserve u.s. protection as well. compare. ivory coast is governed by an illegitimate president who lost an election but refuses to leave. he's slaughtered 500 civilians since november, some burned alive, others raped and tortured. 100,000 refugees and counting have already streamed into neighboring liberia, destabilizing the region and threatening free elections in the west africa. and can the african union, like the arab league, has asked for international help. >> there are people being killed, and they're being killed in a rather random way. the people are going in the neighborhoods that supported the opposition and shooting people
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indiscriminately. >> reporter: so why are u.s. forces in libya and not ivory coast or bahrain or myanmar or somalia where 23,000 have died, at least triple the number killed by ghadafi? president obama says he acted to prevent genocide. critics say he sets a dangerous precedent. >> some nations may be able to turn a blind eye to atrocities in other countries. the unite of america is -- the united states of america is different. and as president i refuse to wait for the images of slaughter and mass graves before taking action. >> i thought his logic was very confused, and i don't think he gave us any clear guidance why this circumstance this libya is different from or the same as humanitarian situations around the world. >> reporter: analysts say atrocities in rwanda and kosovo prompted obama's action in libya and represents a radical departure in the use of u.s.
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force. a decision many say will haunt future presidents. critics will say the u.s. intervened in libya, so why not now? back to you. jenna: interesting question. william la jeunesse, thank you. gregg: let's talk about that now. joining us for more on the president's speech and that particular argument, brit hume is our senior political analyst. he joins us from washington. brit, always great to see you. the president said, you know, to brush aside our responsibilities to our fellow human beings would have been a betrayal of who we are. what do you think of that argument, some call it american exceptionalism, the president didn't use that phrase. but it apparently comes with a lot of caveats. >> well, what struck me about it is is that this is a president who had previously not acknowledged american exceptionalism. last night in that speech, at least in the early parts of it, he seemed to do just the opposite. he seemed to say that we are an exceptional nation with certain exceptional responsibilities and that we couldn't turn a blind eye to this. now, you know, it's a slippery
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slope, and the president made the point last night that, you know, we can't go everywhere, but because we can't go everywhere doesn't mean we shouldn't go anywhere. of course, the flip side of that is, well, if you go somewhere with, does it mean you have to go everywhere? gregg: sure. >> i think the president would say, no, that libya had its own unique circumstances that don't necessarily obtain in the ivory coast. the ivory coast, for example, was known to much of the world for a long time as the former colonial partner of france. one of the signs that was being held was in french. one might make the argument that if any of the western nations has a special responsibility there, it would be france and not the united states. gregg: yeah. you mentioned, you know, the president said we can't go everywhere, but that doesn't mean we can't go somewhere. i want to play that clip because there's also a little bit more i want to ask you about. here it is. >> it's true that america cannot use our military wherever
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repression occurs. given the costs and risks of intervention, we must always measure our interests against the need for action. but that cannot be an argument for never acting on behalf of what's right. gregg: a bit of a strongman argument and kind of a vague standard he's setting up here. he's saying there has to be american interests here, though robert gates said there's no vital interest here. what do you make of that? >> well, look, there are no vital interests in the conventional sense that that term is applied where we have, say, a military base or vital supply link or, you know, some need for oil to fuel the economies of much of the world. so that doesn't really apply here particularly well, but that doesn't mean we don't have an interest. as the president framed it, as a
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humanitarian interest. the problem i have with the speech, gregg, is that the president began by extolling the american leadership that he said he had exercised in this case and spoke of it as having succeeded. having said that, he seemed to then go on to say and the best thing about it is is that we're now going to stop that american leadership and turn it over to others. that seems to me to be confusing and hard to square. i think what we're watching here, gregg, is a president who is, who is learning as he goes. foreign policy is not an area where he was deeply experienced at all, and he is finding out that american leadership is inevitable and, indeed, necessary in many instances for all of the noise that was being made about other western leaders in this and then people saying that barack obama was following. in the end, what was decisive was his decision to go along with all of this, and the use of american force quickly put in place to get the whole thing up and running which would have been impossible without it.
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gregg: quick question. the president insisted our mission is not designed for regime change. isn't that precisely what it's intended to do? >> well, i think he hopes that will be the outcome. what he's trying to contend here is that is not the principle military mission. indeed, that is not what our military is up to. but when the military acts, for example, long outside the outskirts of benghazi to turn back attacks on the rebel forces as has repeatedly been the case, you have the sense that we've taken sides in the civil war, and we're trying from the air and in the other ways to help the rebels win and that would mean, ultimately, the overthrow of ghadafi. gregg: all right. brit hume, it's always great to get your insights. thank you very much. >> thank you, gregg. jenna: well, talk about something you don't want to hear when you're at the airport. how about this, there's a hole in our plane. gregg: oh, my. you don't want to hear that. jenna: that story straight ahead. also, a new proposal from the obama administration to help out struggling homeowners.
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wait physical you hear who would be -- wait until you hear who would be responsible for it. in the meantime, did president obama change your mind on the libya effort? right now more than 36,000 of you have voted. 62% say, no, i still disagree with the military effort. 23% say, yes, i've always agreed with the military effort. log on to foxnews.com to cast your votes. we look forward to hearing from you. @=h
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gregg: welcome back. right now the fbi is investigating a pretty scary situation involving a us airways jet. a pilot discovering a hole in the fuselage. the plane arrived at charlotte douglas international airport yesterday from philadelphia. an airline spokeswoman now saying there were no apparent problems during the flight. the plane has now been taken out of service. now, the small hole was visible on the aircraft's exterior, but it did not go all the way through into the cabin. obviously, that would have
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depressurized the cabin. jenna: a business alert, some sobering news for all of us really on housing. prices falling in most of our major cities from december to january. four cities, in fact -- atlanta, las vegas, detroit and cleveland -- average home values are now even lower than they were back in january of 2000. in the meantime, the obama administration wants banks to spend $20 billion to help struggling homeowners avoid foreclosure. so that's one of the new policies we're looking at. charles payne is ceo of wall street strategies, he's a contributor to the fox business network. first, charles, let's start off with this data on housing. >> right. jenna: what's your take on home values still fueling? >> it's -- falling? >> it's shocking. new home sales and existing home sales, you know, in the december new home sales were average price $290,000, by february they were $246,000. this is a plunge, this is a freefall, the absolute definition of deflation. same thing with existing homes. you could have bought a new existing home, average price
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last july 231,000, now almost 200,000. and, you know, i guess the real point here is this housing mess is so bad, jenna, that all this tinkering has done nothing. all we've done is put a few speed bumps into where it inevitably must go. jenna: some of the government programs that are trying to help people stay in their homes, i'm going to get to that in just a second. one analyst said today the big banks that have of gone through this crisis aren't prepared to see a double dip in housing, and that could effect the entire financial system. do you agree? is. >> i agree, although i hesitate to say double dip because we never came out of the first dip, to be honest with you. jenna: in housing, right. >> yeah. it's really frighten. and now there's also talk of new legislation to mandate 20% down. jenna: what would that do to if you're a brand new person just wanting to enter the housing market? does that make it more expensive to try to buy a home versus when my parents? >> it's a catch 22.
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if you had a heartbeat, if you had a pulse, you could get a mortgage. now the idea if you only have 20% down, obviously, a lot of people in this environment don't have -- jenna: yeah, who has the cash? >> >> ideally, that's the way you want to go into a house. jenna: the obama administration wants to kind of get out of the extra stimulus that was put into fannie mae and freddie mac, they're trying to unwind the institutions we've taken over during the crisis, and there was a plan of $30 billion to help people modify their mortgage. now, they also want to get out of that plan, but have the banks pick up the slack. so your bank would be responsible for home loan modifications rather than having a government middleman, is that the way it works? >> when the president announced the housing affordable mortgage program, he said it could help up to three million people. an utter, utter failure. $30 billion for a variety of reasons. people didn't apply properly, some banks dragged their feet, and to be quite honest, jenna,
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it's like trying to catch a falling safe from the third floor. it's got to hit the ground. no matter what you do, it's coming down hard, and, you know, there are all sorts of different restrictions put on it. it was a flawed plan from the very beginning. $30 billion taxpayer money, they would have been better off sending these people a check, i mean, really if you were going to go that route. so now the idea is the public is outraged with all of this spending -- jenna: and we've propped up the banks. >> so what's happened in the midst of all of this, we also had the robo signings where people were being kicked out of their house, the process where someone got a stack of papers and said i'm not going to look through this. it's a rubber stamp, you're out tomorrow. okay. that's wrong. they should have read through the paperwork. what the white house wants to do is take this folly and say, hey, since you guys messed this up, we want you to take $20 billion and modify people's mortgages. so if someone has to pay $1500 a month, maybe they could pay $800
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and spread it out over a longer period of time. jenna: so are the banks going to agree to this kind of penance for what's been happening? >> in some ways you would say to yourself in some ways it might be smart business sense. i'm a bank, i'm sitting on a ton of houses i don't want, i'm not in this business anyway, but it should be up to the banks to make this decision. you know, when the government starts to tell businesses how to operate like this, to this degree, it's very frightening. also they have to worry about this: this is the modification of payments. these houses have come down already. people are underwater tremendously. a lot of people still don't want to live this these houses, don't want to pay towards them. so what's the next step if banks say, yes, will the government make them modify the principal? jenna: what i'm supposed to bay. >> right. i borrowed 25,000 -- 250,000 from you, but i only have to pay 170,000. that's a slippery slope. jenna: real quickly, when does it get better? >> i have no idea. a lot of people were saying this
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idea, a lot of people were saying last year. i really don't have any idea. jenna: it's a natural process -- >> at this point it's going to take a long way. and all the schemes haven't worked. they've backfired, in fact. jenna: it'll be interesting to see if banks sign on. charles, thanks a lot. greging. gregg: charles, mr. happy. really made my day, pal. president obama's taken some heat over libya, but a lot of folks are in the his corner saying things could be much worse if he just stood aside and did nothing. so we're going to talk to somebody who says, hey, the president deserves a whole lot more credit. plus, a teacher goes to court because her school won't give her time off for a pilgrimage to mecca, and now she's got the department of justice on her side. my doctor said most calcium supplements...
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gregg: a fox news alert, associated press now reporting that pakistani officials have arrested indonesian terror suspect umar pitek. he is wanted right here in the united states as well as australia and indonesia on terrorism charges. pitek is believed to have taken part in the 2002 bombings in the bali, indonesia, that killed more than 200 people. jenna: well, "happening now," there has been a lot of criticism of the president and his handling of the libyan offensive. it's been criticism coming from his own party as well as the right. but there are also many supporters as well. among them, human rights watch which is arguing the president is not getting the credit he deserves for averting a humanitarian crisis in libya before it actually happened. todd is the washington directer of human rights watch, and he's our guest today. tom, i'm familiar with your work because you're a source in a lot of different wire stories that
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come out of the middle east about what's actually happening on the ground, but our viewers may not be as familiar. tell us a little bit about human rights watch. >> we monitor human rights abuses in countries all over the world. we've got folks on the ground if most of countries in the middle east that have experienced uprisings. we have two people right now in eastern libya who have been there since the rebellion started and who have been reporting to us about what's happening on the ground. jenna: we've used this term, humanitarian crisis, quite freely to describe the situation in a lot of different places around the region. how would you define a humanitarian crisis? >> i think when the civilian population is under great distress, when people are being killed, being driven from their homes. and that's what we were afraid was going to happen if ghadafi's forces had reached benghazi, the capital of eastern libya. we were afraid there would have been terrible bloodshed within the city as the two sides fought for control over it, and that once ghadafi had taken control
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of benghazi, he would have hunted down the people who supported the democratic opposition there, imprisoned them, disappeared them and and, in many ways, executed them. jenna: what do you say, tom, to people who say, listen, we don't know. this guy's been in power for 40 years, yes, he's a bad man, he's done a whole lot of horrible things, but we don't know exactly what would have happened. what do you assay to critics? >> if you wait until it happens, it's too late. in bosnia we waited three years to intervene after the genocide that happened there. that was three years too late. had we done so before it started, we would have saved hundreds of thousands of lives. so you never know, but i think there were many indications that had ghadafi taken benghazi, he he would have done what he actually said he was going to do, to show no mercy to the people there. jenna: what about other places in the region? for example, we heard from yemen last week that snipers were taking out people that were
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demonstrating in the streets. we've seen that, certainly, in the syria as well. what about the other places in the region and whether or not we should get involved? should we be going in there as well? >> well, i wouldn't say we should go in militarily to every country in the world that's experiencing repression. there are other ways that the united states can make a difference. we don't have the capacity to invade every country that's undergoing these problems. but i think libya was a unique case. here was a country where people were being gunned down not just by police officers, but by helicopters, by planes, by tanks, by artillery, a country where the people had called out to the united states for help. jenna: uh-huh. >> a country where we have this broad coalition. the united nations authorized the use of force, france, the u.k., turkey, qatar were willing to stand there with us. i think when all of these factors come together, that suggests that, you know, this is a case where we could have and should have, and i'm glad we did act. jenna: you know, tom, i'm going
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to be speaking to the ambassador from the u.s. to the united nations, susan rice, coming up in just about a half an hour, and the big question a lot of our viewers have is where should we be watching next? where is the next crisis where the united states is going to get involved or should get involved? what area are you watching specifically? what's the top of your list? >> well, let's set aside the military action. we're very carefully watching the situation in syria, in yemen, in bahrain, even in saudi arabia where there is a protest movement. there is a wave of democratic protest movements spreading throughout the middle east, and, you know, now that it's clear, i think, that ghadafi is going to lose, i think those movements still have life. and it's important that the united states support those people who are standing up for their freedom as president obama promised that he would last night. jenna: and the way we support them, of course, as you so rightly point out, is something we're going to be talking a lot about. tom, thank you so much for joining us today. >> thank you very much.
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gregg: nuclear plant workers in japan scrambling yet again to control leaking radiation. we're going to be talking to a reporter on the ground in tokyo with the very latest. plus, secretary of state hillary clinton is calling on world leaders now to put more pressure on moammar ghadafi and make it clear he's got to go. we're live at the state department within moments.
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gregg: fox news alert new concerns about the spread of radiation from japan's damaged nuclear power plant. the prime minister is saying the situation remains unpredictable and the country is in a state of maximum alert. another strong earthquake jolts the region centered about a hundred miles from the stricken fukushima nuclear power plant. david crisanti joins us on the telephone from tokyo. tkpweufp us the latest. what does that mean, maximum alert? it sounds a little frightening. >> reporter: yeah, hi, gregg, earthquakes continuing to hit japan. while each one is alarming, especially there is the risk that a quake could cause another tsunami, they are decreasing each day, and this is reassuring to people in japan. unfortunately the situation at the fukushima nuclear plant remains unpredictable. this is causing concern for people in tokyo as well as the hundreds of thousands of people who live much closer to the plant.
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highly radioactive water has escaped from the reactor housing and is in buildings near three of the reactors. the puddles of radioactive water have caused suspension of work at the number two reactor. water levels have barely decreased. there aren't any definitive answers to the questions people want to know, like where is this water coming from? how long will it take to remove? in fact the source of the leak is still unknown and there are serious concerns that this highly radioactive water could seep into the ground or the ocean. but one bit of good news is that the amount of radiation found in nearby seawater has dropped dramatically. radiation in seawater is at more than one thousand times the standard just near the plant on sunday, but yesterday's reading shows that this has dropped to around 600 times. it's still an alarm figure but it's a sign that radiation leakage is dropping, unfortunately a new concern is that plutonium has been found in
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soil samples around the plant but officials say it is not threatening to human health. gregg: the continuing leak to which you referred, i know they are trying to identify it. can they get close enough to it to locate it? >> reporter: yeah they've located where the water is, but they've got no idea where the leak is coming from. this is preventing them from actually operating their efforts to cool down the plant, so they really don't know what to do because they've got no idea where the leaks are coming from. gregg: with the latest in japan, global radio reporter. thanks very much. jenna: secretary of state clinton calling on world leaders to turn up the heat on qaddhafi's ra seem to force the libyan leader out of power. make these remarks at an international conference in london. james rosen has the latest on this unfolding story. >> reporter: at the margins, around the margins of this conference in hropbd tk-pb there has been a lot of talk to the
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effect that moammar gadhafi may receive safe passage to exile to some safe country that lies outside the jurisdiction of the criminal courts. secretary clinton did not address that directly but with her remarks did not for close that possibility either. >> we have to deep even the isolation of the moammar gadhafi regime. this includes a unified front of political and diplomatic pressure that makes clear to qaddhafi he must so, that sends a strong message of accountability and that sharpens the choice for those around him. >> reporter: this conference brought together diplomats from the united states, united nations, european the arab league more than 40 in all where the u.n. backed military campaign is in effect. key to the mission will be the former foreign minister of
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jordan who the u.n. secretary general has appointed as a special envoy to libya. he heeds to tripoli shortly to establish contact with the qaddhafi regime and deliver that strong message that you just heard secretary clinton talking about. our ambassador to the u.n. spoke today about the other measures that the coalition will be taking after this conference. >> those steps include squeezing qaddhafi's resources and cutting off his money, phers nare reese, his arms, providing assistance to the rebels and the opposition, engaging in a political process as secretary clinton is doing today in london. >> reporter: now you heard ambassador rice say that we are, quote, providing assistance to the rebels. elsewhere she said we are not supplying arms to them though we reserve the option to do so. what assistance exactly are we providing to the rebels? it is a fit subject of discussion for you, jenna lee to
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pursue with susan rice. jenna: we'll need about three hours. we will try to get it into a five-minute interview. thanks for the advice and the report. talk to you soon. gregg: libyan rebels are retreating from qaddhafi's hometown after forces loyal to the leader have unleashed heavy weapon fire. rebel forces trying to dig in and gain control of the see stronghold of sirte. a retired u.s. navy captain chuck nash joins us. he is a fox news military analyst. nice to see you. >> reporter: nice to be with y you. gregg: is sirte the hometown of qaddhafi maybe the line in the sand so far? >> reporter: i think it is absolutely. that's the center of his power, he was born 50 miles south of there, and if you draw a line straight south from sirte and then go east that's where all the oil fields in libya are.
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so his tribal strength is there, and that's as close as he would allow the rebel forces to get to tripoli. i think the line in the sand is at sirte. i think he's pushed east to try to get some negotiating position so if it does come to a political settlement he can settle at a point just to the eastern side of sirte. gregg: what should we do? we should start bombing all of his tanks and heavy artillery positions. >> we already are. we are the air force for the rebels. so*ebg rice when she says we are now going to support rebels and everything, that didn't come out in the president's speech last night but it's now out now. it appears that we are bringing in c130 gun ships, bringing in a-10's. those are specifically designed not for no-fly zones, they are designed to supply ground troops. gregg: the president said in his
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speech we are handing over command now to nato. nato is americans, the commander's take off their hats on put on nato hats. >> reporter: yes, the admiral, his hat is the commander of the european commander. if he turns that hat around he is the supreme admiral. the four star admiral is foreign services europe. it's the same people, they have different names. they added in a canadian three star that is working in that chain of command now as well. gregg: is it all together possible that in qaddhafi holds in the west the rebels could hold the east and then you've got to stalemate and what could turn out to be sort of a long and proceed tacted and expensive war of attrition here between these two isolated areas?
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>> reporter: i think that is possible, because here is the dilemma that qaddhafi could propose, which is he gets to a point where he's pushed east far enough where he has a negotiating position back to sirte, and then declares a cease-fire. at that point he is complying with 1973, the u.n. scr, so therefore if the rebels attack him they are the ones breaking the cease-fire. so will the nato forces then attack the rebels? so this gets very, very sticky, if he's smart enough to just stop. but with his personality the guy is so unpredictable, and some would say crazy that he'll probably want to fight to the bitter end just because that's what is going to drive him. his own troops are going to have to take him out or we're going to have to take him out and we ought to stop dancing around the point and say that's what we're trying to do stphaot president
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said we're no.gregg: the preside not going to do that. maybe somebody else will. jenna: a new report that broke about an hour ago from a in it tow commander who said this. that there is quote, flickers of al-qaida amongst the libyan rebels. we want to talk more about this with our ambassador to the u.n. susan rice. she will be joining us to talk a little bit what is happening in libya, what is next for us there and those reports as well. also a watery crash, the pilot and passenger who escaped serious injury, it's our must-see moment of the day. your long-term payout into a lump sum of cash today. what super fruit is taking sunsweet ones.orm? prunes? they're a delicious source of nutrients. wow! it's packaged by itself... that's fantastic!
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here? an american border patrol agent shoots and kills a suspected drug smuggler who was fleeing for the mexican border. he is now, that agent, under investigation and could potentially face charges. we investigate that, plus, did the barefoot contessa dis a dying boy? see you at the top of the hour. jenna: a new crisis today about religious freedom on the job. the justice department suing an illinois school district on a 29-year-old's math teach's behalf. the school refused to give her more than two weeks off for a pilgrimage to mecca. there is probably a lot to this. doug. can you give us background on this case. >> reporter: yeah her name is seforia kahn. she taught school for only nine months when she asked for three weeks after to go on the
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pilgrimage to mecca before the school's final exams. the school refused her request, she resigned and decided to sue. thomas perez took up her case under title 7 of the civil rights act of 1964. that act prohibits an employer from discriminal tphaeugt on the basis of race, sex, national origin or religion. perez describes this as a profoundly personal request by a person of faith. a former bush justice department civil right's attorney says it's to placate muslims. >> i think what you're going on here is you have radical ideologs that are inhabiting the professional positions inside the justice department, and they are using their power and the law to try to push what are, frankly, extreme cultural and other views that they have that
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the ordinary american person does not agree with. >> reporter: this lawsuit prompted a t*es tee exchange between perez and senator lindsey graham just this morning. >> she could have accommodated her religious beliefs without leaving the school district in a lurch. >> this is striking lee similar to a case brought by the bush administration in 2007 where an individual requested a three-week leave of absence for a pilgrimage to mecca, and that, again, the employer -- >> they were wrong too. >> reporter: and that goes right to the heart of the legal issues in this case, jenna. jenna: what about those legal issues, legal precedents if you will in this case? what should we be looking for. >> reporter: federal regulations require an employer to provide reasonable accommodation -gs for the religious practices of employees unless it causes undue
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hardship on the conduct of its business. the supreme court has ruled that it is an undue hardship if the employer has to bear more than a today minimum must cost, a minimal cost in order to provide the accommodation. the justice department may argue in this case that finding a replacement teacher at this time of the school year was likely a minimal cost. the school district will argue it is way beyond a minimal cost. we will see as the case progresses. jenna: doug mcelway, thank you. gregg: susan rice says the u.s. will not rule out arming the opposition in libya. we'll get new information that al-qaida may have infiltrated rebel forces there, that's right al-qaida. how do we know who we are dealing with any way? and who might end up getting their hands on any weapons we provide in we are going to be talking with ambassador rice next.
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jenna: fox news alert for you now so many breaking news items out of libya today. nato says there may be al-qaida elements among the rebels in libya. we'll talk with the ambassador to the united nations, susan rice who is joining us live. great to have you today. >> good to be with you, jenna. jenna: let's start out with the broad picture over law and knowing there are no absolutes in libya right nowment what steps can we take to insure whatever government arises in the post qaddhafi regime is a government that is friendly and an ally of the united states. >> let me begin by reminding ourselves what it is we're doing here. the mission is to protect civilians and stab a no-fly zone. by sreurt ooh of the united states having played a leadership coal and handed oef to a nato and coalition we have
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established ourselves on the side of the libyan people. i think that is the first and most fundamental answer to your question. libya has not ever had the opportunity to be a democracy, to determine its own future, and so there are obviously different elements in libyan society but they've been repressed for four decades by qaddhafi. our aim beyond the civilian protection mission, not our military mission but our political interest, as the united states, is in a libya in which its people can peacefully and freely determine their own future. just as we're beginning to see happen next door in egypt and tunisia and throughout other parts of the middle east. jenna: there are questions about whether or not the rebels as we refer to them represent the libyan people overall. when we hear reports like this next one it causes us some caution. u.s. nato commander coming out today that says intelligence suggests there are flickers of al-qaida evident in the group we're supporting. have you heard any evidence to support that?
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>> well, i like to think i'm reading much of the same stuff, and, no. i think we can't rule out the possibility that extremist elements could filter into any segment of libyan society and it's something clearly we will watch carefully for. we are still as i think is well-known, in the early stages of our engagement with the opposition. secretary clinton met only for the second time today with the opposition leader in london. we have announced that we'll be sending a senior representative to the opposition to strengthen and deep even that dialogue. we are prepared to assist with humanitarian assistance and potentially political and other support but we have not taken any decision to formally recognize or embrace the opposition. it's too soon and we are still trying to get to know them. jenna: with that, knowing that we are still trying to get to know this group and knowing that potentially extremist elements
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exist there are questions about what our assistance should look like to this group. there has been a little bit of disagreement on whether or not we are going to provide arms to the rebels. certain people say the sanctions or resolutions from the u.n. allow that. secretary gates and yourself have mentioned that is still a possibility, others disagree with that. what is the truth? are we going to give arms to the opposition. >> there are two different questions, one is what is legal and what is going to be u.s. policy. with respect to u.s. policy the president said last night that we will provide assistance to the libyan opposition, that includes political and humanitarian assistance but no decision has been made to provide military assistance. as a legal matter will are two resolutions that are relevant, the first one 1970 which imposed an arms embargo, the next one 1973 which provided for enforcement of the arms embargo and the use of all necessary means to protect civilians. taken together these two
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resolutions in our estimation neither authorize the provision of military assistance nor preclude it. jenna: so what does that mean? >> well the next step from a u.s. policy point of view is to hand off the civilian protection mission an enforcement of the no-fly zone substantially to nato and our arab partners and step back into much more of a support role. we will continue to enforce the arms embargo. cut off his mercenaries. engage with the opposition and provide political, humanitarian and other forms of assistance but no formal decision has been made by the united states to arm the opposition. jenna: it's something that we're going to be watching so closely. our audience has so many questions about our leadership in the area and i hope to have you back on begin to talk more about that ambassador. thank you so much for joining us. >> thank you. jenna: we'll be right back with
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